Krag collectors association forum 1898 krag carbine advice. The 9 mm cartridge has been the caliber of choice in arpattern pistolcaliber carbines for decades, but cmmg decided to change things up recently with their mkg 45 guard carbine in. The m1 carbine was developed as a light rifle, chambered for. There were 10 main manufactures of the us gi wartime m1 carbine. Featured in british non ordnance military carbines 17501900p 25 and also for similar carbines musketoons see. The m95s coming out of century arms at this time all have stacking hooks while some of them have stocks that. The m1 carbine was produced in several variants and was widely used by not only the u. M95 carbines were issued to the russian navy as the standard arm, but i do not know if they were marked in any way.
Carbines for collectors history and small arms of a world at war. A collectors guide to the firearms and cartridges invented by the famous civil war general, ambrose e. The sales process is much different than common parts accessories firearms due to their scarcity. M1 garand and carbine club, m1 collectors club, birth of the m1 carbine. It is the revised 5th edition and has even more mistakes than the 4 early books. These were part of a very limited run of replacement parts that. Most collectors would want a model 1898 carbine in its original configuration. To provide for increased holding power of the magazine catch c1 29 oct 1952 16 may 1945 25 may 1954. Mechanical designs of the carbine and working parts were developed by david. As these carbines were reconditioned, parts were changed out and the stock on my carbine is milled out for the m2 full auto version selectfire switch. Those carbines are generally of poor quality and just plain awful. To replace leaf type rear sight with a sight that is adjustable for both windage and elevation. High to low most popular title manufacturer newest oldest availability 30 per page 60 per page 120 per page 180 per page 300 per page page of 1. M1 carbines made by universal, normally have the ventilated hand guard and modified bolt.
M1 carbines, wartime production, 7th edition, revised and expanded, by craig riesch. If you are a beginning collector it is not a bad idea to start with a shooter grade carbine. Bruce canfields complete guide to the m1 garand and the. Hi i am new to the board and trying to learn something about late serial number krag carbines i have shot and reloaded for. Today its one of the rarest and most soughtafter modern guns by collectors. Usgi m1 carbines that have import stamps on them are the best value right now. Animal against animal and then man against man in the struggle to maintain our existence. Gun books by collector grade publications, gun book publishers. Please click here and read this page, for how to buy collector grade parts, collector grade accessories, and collector grade firearms from orion 7.
Getting the first 300 of those carbine fabricated drove burnside into bankruptcy in 1857, and he then changed careers. How to identify an original m1 carbine, part 1, receivers. Weapons guide for total beginners guns, colts revolvers and rifles firearms training firearms for beginners firearms. Loewe berlin on the left receiver sn 1941 in my collection. Stokes kirk type carbine sn 478,704 with an 1898 marked receiver, and a light 1901 cartouche on sanded. For collectors only, north cape publications 47,599 views. To assist and encourage new owners, old owners, collectors and researchers to share and exchange information for the purpose of expanding everyones knowledge. There has been a scarcity of correct information about their history and use. The hardest group of carbines to find are the ones with the 1942 barrel date. The book is a handy reference for beginning or experienced collectors.
The world has been almost in constant conflict since the beginning of time. Describes the four models of ml carbines from all ten manufacturers. The m1 carbine formally the united states carbine, caliber. Models made by universal hialeah and iver johnson are post war commercial models. This book provides collectors and arms historians with a more complete and correct historical record of the manufacture and issue to combat troops of both new made carbines as well as conversions of obsolete rifles and carbines to lindners breech loading system. Fakery is a frequent problem with model 1898 carbines. The history of weapons of the american revolution, by george c neumann, p 121 the book of the continental soldier, by harold l peterson, p 45.
The 7th edition of this bestselling bible of the world war ii m1 carbine has been revised and expanded to include new information regarding adjustable rear sights and their period of use, additional manufacturers codes, new information regarding the importance of rebuilt m1. We looked at these two carbines for historical accuracy, for competition use in m1 carbine matches, and as a homedefense choice. All of our collector grade rifles, including m1 carbines, are found in our new gallery of featured collector grade parts, accessories, rifles. There is an enormous amount of incorrect information out there about the model numbers on the guns llama made and i have done my best in identifying them to correct it. Explore the carbines for collectors business page in lockhart, tx. These pins are machined from 4140 stock to the original tric fox carbine production tolerances. Llama llama means flame in spanish, but they used the animal as their logo as well. Since 1979 collector grade has been producing an expanding catalogue of important reference gun books on the worlds most. The last big import wave of m1 carbines came in from blue sky and arlington ordnance decades ago. There is history, the manufacturers, serial number ranges, parts breakdowns which help understand different characteristics of parts fromfor the different manufacturers. The history of how this piece of american history came to be, the prototypes, their testing, the contracts, the stories of each of the. Besides the argentinian model of 1891 carbines in 7.
Whether operated by manual or purely mechanical means, each cartridge in. Neumann collection valley forge national historical park. Bottom line, our test team found these two carbines to be reliable, depending on the ammunition employed, offer good. The 5th edition was a big mistake as the 4th edition had less errors, the actual photographs of the various parts being described are not the best like the underwood stock with partial amounts worn off like the. This is a newly manufactured trunion pin for the fox carbine and variants. The joslyn carbine model 1862, often referred to as the first model, was a cavalry weapon that used an innovative pivoting breechblock system invented and patented by massachusetts gun designer 218538. The technical reference material is unmatched, anywhere. Complete with codes for every part by serial number range. This underwood is being sold for a private collector that doesnt want to deal with the internet. Studler, chief of the small arms development branch of the office, chief of ordinance was one of the driving forces behind the carbine. Many carbines are shortened versions of fulllength rifles, shooting the same ammunition, while others fire lowerpowered ammunition, including types designed for pistols.
Between june 1942 and august 1945, ten primary contractors and dozens of subcontractors established manufacturing facilities, tooled up, and produced over six million m1 carbines under the. Shooting illustrated top 15 pistolcaliber carbines. Wwii and korean war military ammo in original boxes. In my opinion the maynard rifle is the best breech loading arm that has yet been introduced into the service, but there. Significantly for the cadet corps the number of carbines for use by cadets. Underwood flat bolt, type 1 underwood slide, underwood trigger house. A brief history of the pistol carbines all4shooters. Slide bandrforward until it c1ears upper and lower stock halves. Bruce canfields complete guide to the m1 garand and the m1 carbine. The 1910 report deals with the additional purchase of short rifles mkiii for the mounted corps and more mle long rifles on order.
It was basically retired in the 50s and has been showing up in the usa for the past few years as a collectors item. But a nice condition gi model, even with lots of mixed manufacture parts, will run a grand or more. The sks carbine, 5th revised and expanded edition for collectors only 5th. Name has been expanded to the carbine collectors club by going to an online format we can host pictures and pages which explain most things carbine.
Dedication this book is dedicated to captain iwan hedmanmorelius, royal sodermanland regiment, p10, army of sweden ret. Military firearms m1892 krag, m1903, m1903a3, m1917 colt automatic pistols. The early oval cut stocks also command high prices. In our opinion, the inland is suitable for all three, where the ao is not competition ready, but it satisfies the other two roles pretty well.
How to identify and original m1 carbine, part 2, barrels duration. Collectors recognize the lower serial numbers single, two or three digit serial numbers as more desirable and thus command a. In 1963, about 240,000 m1 carbines were decommissioned and sold without magazines to. Properly restored or in original condition guns will bring in a real premium for the collector. Expanded and updated coverage of both the m1 garand and the m1 carbine, with more than twice as much information as canfields previous books on this topic.
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